As chinese proverb, "spare the rod, spoil the child" , most elder parents do not doubt it make sense.

However, as the times change,many new problems are shown up with this crude methods of education. In view of this situation, people have to pay more attention on these new education problems, in particular, the educators. So, must we do punish to children for helping them tell from the right and wrong? If you ask me, my point is the appropriate punishment even including physical punishment is necessary.

 

Before I start my argument, please let me tell a story first. Long long time ago, in fact, when I was a pupil of Fifth Grade in elementary school. I had a bad manners of biting my finger nails and I knew that it was harmful to my health and I should quit, epescially, after my mother took a lot of examples to explain why it was bad habits. But, it was difficult for me to quit and I still bit my nails unconsciously. Being Difficult of quiting a habit is the same with most of people even adults. Anyway, telling sense didn't work so that my mother beat my hands when she found I was biting, in order to impress me with forbiding of biting nails . Unfortunately, I had a tough bad habit, finally, my morther covered my finger nails all with gentian violet as a physical and mental punishment. The end of thise story, I would never bite my nails and I thanked my mother when I ever brought it in mind.

 

Could we learn some from this real story? By all means, I don't mean that punishment is the only effetive way to help children correct their mistakes, it depents on different situations or/and a variety of characteristic children.Just in general, punishment works well apparently.

How could I articulate that punishment works well in general? Personally,I think that here three reasons can support my argument probably.

First, most parents love their children (except so extrem and special situations) and they won’t choose punishment as first option .If oral warning could works or other ways of education could deal with children’s problems, most parents won’t choose punishement. Though parents do punish to children, I do believe they won't do so serious physical punishiment that it would be harmful to their children's health, and appropriate physical punishiment impress children on wrong and right things and also prevent children from more serious bad things in future. One point I want to emphasize is that parents are the only ones who have authorities to carry out punishement, teachers are not able to do it. It doesn’t mean I don’t believe teachers but mean that I think teachers should give more encouraging and positive ways to educate children while punishment is not a sort of positive way, after all.

second,most children love their parents(except extrem charateristic children) and they will forgive their parents who punish them for love. Though children was punished by their parents, they would know that all parents' expectations were good for them in one day, sooner or later. Being threaten with punishment, children learnt to tell difference from wrong and right, build good mannars , act with appropriate way, live with positive attitude and so on and so forth. Some people may bring forth opposition that 'wrong'and 'right','good ','appropriate', are all so-called and those what parents told us and taught us are their way to think and live and may inhibit the development of our own characteristics.

I totally agree with that point, but I must remind a little bit. Don't you really think that children could know their really needs and what is the special good way for them without any basic knowledge. More precisely, it is easily to stray away from the path which you want to reach without knowing the general or special choices, especially, when you are anxious to look for and not calm enough to comtenplate more.The answer, I think, is no. So, punishing seems a little crude, especially physical punishment, but is totally better than regreting for the stupid action because of being spoiling by your parents. For instance, I really regreted that I should study harder when I was in school, I couldn’t realise why I didn’t like study and even scorned on it at that time. Now, I still have chances to study but I lost the best time. Some people may say “this is the life, nobody could replace you to experience and you should face it, taste it by yourself. Then you learnt a lot. That is also the beauty of life.” And, that’s the way I comfort myself.

The last but not least, we need to admit that oral eduation does not usually work well,and other new ways to educate may not work and also take other negtive effects at the same time. Like my story said, I knew my mother was right while I had to quit my bad habit, but I couldn't and the oral education failed. In addition, some parents reward privilege to encourage children do the right things.That's a good idea, and children could through the positive rewards impress the right things so that parents could get the expected achievments.Whereas, the negtive effects is getting into the habits of doing right things for rewarding or with rewarding. That is not good, they should know they have responsibility to do right things and they are may well be punished if doing the wrong things in society.

 

All my points are below, I think right way to punish is still worth attemping.But, of couse, it is not the first option. Punishment should become one of the options as other methods of education, in my opinon. It is not a necessary way to educate every time but a probable option to choose, anyway, they are all decided by individuals.

 

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  • hello. Here I come with my comment and analysis

    I. Comment

    As chinese proverb, "spare the rod, spoil the child" , most elder parents do not doubt it make sense. Most elderly parents have no doubt about it.

    However, as the times change, many new problems are shown up with this crude methods method of education. In view of this situation, people have to pay more attention on these new education problems, in particular, the educators. So, must we do punish punishment to children for helping them tell from the right and wrong? If you ask me, my point is the appropriate punishment even including physical punishment corporal punishment is necessary.

    Before I start my argument, please let me tell a story first. Long long time ago, in fact, when I was a pupil of Fifth Grade in at elementary school. I had a bad manners manner of biting my finger nails and I knew that it was harmful to my health and I should quit, epescially, especially after my mother took a lot of examples to explain why it was bad habits. But, However, it was difficult for me to quit and I still bit my nails unconsciously. Being Difficult of quiting getting rid of a habit is the same with most of people most people even adults. Anyway, telling sense didn't work so that my mother beat my hands when she found I was biting, in order to impress me with forbiding of biting nails in order to impress me and forbid me of biting my nails. Unfortunately, I had a tough bad habit, finally, my morther covered my finger nails all with gentian violet as a physical and mental punishment. The end of thise story, I would never bite my nails and I thanked my mother when I ever brought it in mind.  it was brought back/ I recalled it.

     

    Could we learn some from this real story? By all means, I don't mean that punishment is the only effetive effective way to help children correct their mistakes, it depents depends on different situations or/and a variety of characteristic Characteristics children. Just in general, punishment works well apparently.

    How could I articulate that punishment works well in general? Personally,I think Personally/ I think (don’t use them at the same time because they are equal) that here three reasons can support my argument probably.

    First, most parents love their children (except so extrem extreme and special situations) and they won’t choose punishment as first option .If oral warning could works work or other ways of education could deal with children’s problems, most parents won’t choose punishement. Punishment Though parents do punish to children, I do believe they won't do so serious physical punishiment apply corporal punishment so seriously that it would be harmful to their children's health, and appropriate physical punishiment impress children on wrong and right things and also prevent children from more from doing more serious bad things in future. One point I want to emphasize is that parents are the only ones who have authorities to carry out punishement, teachers are not able to do it. It doesn’t mean I don’t believe teachers but mean that I think teachers should give more encouraging and positive ways to educate children while punishment is not a sort of positive way, after all.

    second,most children love their parents(except extrem charateristic extreme characteristic children) and they will forgive their parents who punish them for love. Though children was were punished by their parents, they would know that all parents' expectations were good for them in one day, sooner or later. Being threaten with punishment, children learnt to tell difference from wrong and right, build good mannars manners, act with appropriate way, behave appropriately, live with positive attitude and so on and so forth. Some people may bring forth opposition that 'wrong'and 'right','good ','appropriate', are all so-called and those what parents told us and taught us are their way to think and live their way of thinking and living and may inhibit the development of our own characteristics.

    I totally agree with that point, but I must remind a little bit. Don't you really think that children could know their really needs and what is the special good way for them without any basic knowledge know what they really need and what is good for them without aby basic knowledge. More precisely, it is easily easy to stray away from the path which you want to reach without knowing the general or special particular (general >< particular) choices, especially, when you are anxious to look for and not calm enough to comtenplate more contemplate more. The answer, I think, is no. So, punishing seems a little crude, especially physical punishment, but is totally better than regreting for the stupid action because of being spoiling by your parents. For instance, I really regreted regretful that I should study should have studied harder when I was in school, I couldn’t realise why I didn’t like study studying and even scorned on it at that time. Now, I still have chances to study but I lost the best time. Some people may say “this is the life, nobody could replace you to experience and you should face it, taste it by yourself. Then you learnt a lot. That is also the beauty of life.” And, that’s the way I comfort myself.

    The last but not least, Last but not least,  we need to admit that oral eduation education does not usually work well, and other new ways to educate may not work and also take other negtive negative effects at the same time. Like my story said, As regards my above, I knew my mother was right while I had to quit my bad habit, but I couldn't and the oral education failed. In addition, some parents reward privilege to encourage children do the right things.That's a good idea, and children could through the positive rewards impress the right things so that parents could get the expected achievments.Whereas, the negtive effects is getting into the habits of doing right things for rewarding or with rewarding. That is not good, they should know they have responsibility to do right things and they are may well be punished (???) if doing the wrong things in society.

    All my points are below, above I think right way to punish is still worth attemping.But, of couse, course it is not the first option. Punishment should become one of the options as other methods of education, in my opinon. It is not a necessary way to educate every time but a probable option to choose, anyway, they are all decided by individuals.

    II. Analysis

    1. I think you need to choose the best words to express your ideas.

    For example, do punishment => apply punishment

    Physical punishment => corporal punishment

    Quit a habit => Get rid of a habit

    Etc. ( I pointed them out in your essay)

    2. Parallel rule: the items with the same function have the same form.

    Don't you really think that children could know their really needs and what is the special good way for them without any basic knowledge

    “their real need” and “what is the special good way” are two items with the same function (because they are put after “know”)

    Therefore, your sentence can be rewritten as follow:

    -         Don’t you really think that children could really know their real need and the good things for them without any basic knowledge? (both are noun phrases)

    -         Don’t you really think that children could really know what they really need and what is good for them… (both are Wh- clauses)

    I will give more examples:

    - What I really need now are a hot bath and a good rest

    - What I really need now are having a hot bath and taking a good rest.

    3. Most of/ most ( i told you before, hehe)

    Hope it will help you!!!

    • thanks again~ there are some places I want to communicate with you.

      1, physical punishment corporal punishment----- the phrase 'physical punishement' I saw it from a sample answer in my IELTS test book.

      2,I ever brought it in mind.  it was brought back/ I recalled it.----there is a phrase 'bring (call) sth in mind' ,it is equivalent to 'recall'

      3,they are may well be punished (???) if doing the wrong things in society.-----"may well" means"very probably",but here i made a mistake. I should say' they may well be punished'

      4, I think right way to punish is still worth attemping.But, of couse, course it is not the first option----"be of worth, be worth doing ,be worth sth."they are all right grammatical. so, i could correct to 'right way to punish is of great worth' ,but not just cancel the 'attemping'.

      5 I really regreted regretful---- I don's think it is correct , the mistake i have in this sentence is the past tense of 'regrete'. I should write ' I really regretted that.....'

      6 Quit a habit => Get rid of a habit-----yes, 'get rid of' is better one, but 'quit' is still a general usage. for example" you must quit smoking""you cannot quit smoking too soon"

      7must we do punish punishment--- here , i want to emphsize. like ' I do believe' . i don't want to say ' do punishment'

       

      thank your help again, and happy to discuss with you later :)

    • hehe, yeah. I was a careless checker yesterday. Sorry. Just some points:

      ...is still worth attempting. However, ... (not "but" because "but" can be put at the begining of the sentence)

      I really regretted / I was really regretful...

      Do punish=> correct!!!

      Hihi, I will try to correct them more carefully next time!!! see you!

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