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To Die Working or to Smell Roses at Last?

Posted by Danny Clark on February 17, 2017 in General Discussion

I have never started any general discussions, but I do feel like doing it today. First, I will tell you about my friend, my collaborator and a member of my band who died in a car crash about two weeks ago for you to get my idea.

We met many years ago when he was my post graduate student. I noticed he was very gifted and strated promoting him at once telling that being a scholar was his destination. He trusted me, he became a great scholar and a great teacher and a member of my band as he played the guitar and sang very well. When he got his Ph.D., he didn't stop, he spent all his time at the university although he was married and had a child who is adult now. Later, he became my neighbor, we have lived house-to-house for so many years! He dedicated himself to education, to the progress of the humanity, but his wife and his son could be in his company just on the great holidays. They have always realized, he had to be that way to be happy, but what about them? Were they happy or satisfied? Sure, they will remember him as he was a good outstanding man, his son will be proud of him, but.... Did he do enough in his life? Did he die happy? I don't know as I am the same. I have dedicated my life to sciense and teaching. I have never spent much time with my family although I love my wife and want to be with her till the last breath. I don't have to work to provide for my family, we are well-secured. But if I stop working, I will stop living and will die away.

So, what to do? Should we work until we die or it must be some time to stop and smell roses?

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  • Danny Clark February 24, 2017 15:34

    Dear friend, I believe we all should be cosiderate communicating with others, especially in the international society

    Mishaikh said:

    Thanks Danny for being so considerate.
    To Die Working or to Smell Roses at Last?
    I have never started any general discussions, but I do feel like doing it today. First, I will tell you about my friend, my collaborator and a member…
  • Mishaikh February 24, 2017 15:17
    Thanks Danny for being so considerate.
  • Danny Clark February 24, 2017 14:36

    Mishaikh, sure, NOT! Any discussion is for people to express their minds whatever they are. Everything is OK, no problem!

    Mishaikh said:

    Soryy Tanya I opologize for my crossing the line. But I never meant to stop you or Danny from any thing.
    No hard feelings please.
    To Die Working or to Smell Roses at Last?
    I have never started any general discussions, but I do feel like doing it today. First, I will tell you about my friend, my collaborator and a member…
  • Mishaikh February 23, 2017 18:22
    Soryy Tanya I opologize for my crossing the line. But I never meant to stop you or Danny from any thing.
    No hard feelings please.
  • Tanya February 23, 2017 14:24

    Dear Mishaikh, you know, we both respect you and feel very good about you. You are a great guy, your blogs often tell more about you than your comments or than you may think! But I'd like to tell you if Dan or any other person wants to speak out his feelings, it means he needs it. It is not the best idea to stop his mouth. He didn't say anything wrong and he started this discussion for others to evaluate themselves.

  • Tanya February 23, 2017 14:12

    Dear Rose, thank you so much for your understanding. But I think he is not ready, yet, although he wants. His yesterday's "day off" was like sticking before the screen and rushin around the house and its neighborhood as he didn't know what else to do! But, in fact, we stared this discussion for others to think about their life priorities. Modern people work too much forgetting about the main: live is not endless. But we do live it as if we were immortal!

  • Danny Clark February 21, 2017 14:04

    Thank you, Mishaikh, we DO!

    Mishaikh said:

    Hey you two, just live your lives happily the way you like, without any discussion and/or argumental analysis...........JUST LIVE!!

    To Die Working or to Smell Roses at Last?
    I have never started any general discussions, but I do feel like doing it today. First, I will tell you about my friend, my collaborator and a member…
  • Mishaikh February 21, 2017 14:00

    Hey you two, just live your lives happily the way you like, without any discussion and/or argumental analysis...........JUST LIVE!!

  • Danny Clark February 21, 2017 13:03

    Darling, I have read your comment and thank you so much for your love and your care. But why to worry about me? I am not a construction worker or a mover! I don't work hard, you know. All I do at work is talking and I never get tired of it! And you, too, is the best thing ever happened to me. I hadn't lived before I met you!

    Have a great day!

    Tanya said:

    Dear Rose, thank you so much for supporting Danny and me! I do appreciate it. You are so wise and so right! I know Danny can't live without me and he is so good for me! We are not separated, we are together, but we rarely see each other, mostly on the weekends. But I do feel his morning kiss and smell of the flowers he brings me every day! He is very good, very romantic, but he can't stop. I do worry about him. He works too much although he doesn't want to do it any longer. But he has his obligations, his contracts, his elective office and his music he can't live without. He says, he works one job, but he works four in fact at the same place. He teaches students, he conduct researches, he is a dean and a leader of a great band. EC has become his fifth job! He wakes up at 5 just to leave a few comments here before he leaves. I always tell him to leave EC for me to answer, but he always says you want to hear HIS comments. Danny is incorrigible! I think he will die working. I can't imagine him staying at home playing with our pets he loves so much! But he is the best thing ever happened to me although I knew MANY others. Let him be as he is and decide himself. I hope, he will read my comment
    Rose said:

    Dear Tanya, maybe is the death of Danny's friend a wake up call for Danny.
    At least it seems as if he starts thinking about the sense of too much working.
    Please don't understand me wrong, I am so sorry for his loss of his friend, I just want to mention, sometimes we need a key experience to ask ourselves again how we live our own life and how much we influence the life of our partner and the life of others they us love and they we love, too. We take our life so self-ecidently but then something happens.
    Suddenly we are reminded of it that our life isn't endless. What does use all work if we don't enjoy to live either. If we believe we can enjoy our life later... who knows for how long he will live? Nobody!!! We should not postpone the sweet side of life to later.
    We all getting older, nobody has the eterny life, but often we live as if we had it.
    You mentioned you want you to make love not only on weekends and it isn't necessary that Danny works until he is too exhausted. You are completely right.
    I am sure he will read your lines and our lines too, maybe it helps him a little to make the right decision ... sometime.
    You know? I got a bad guilty conscience because we learners here on EC take also a lot of his time. We are many people and we want to have so many answers on our questions. If I consider the time difference between the States and Europe ( just for example ) and I notice when Danny is online to correct our homework, then I can imagine when he comes home ( or not ... as you said ). Sometimes I wondered because the conversation between you and him seemed as if you both are spatially separated. I mean not together in the same place at that moment. Now, after I have read your comment, I know my feeling wasn't wrong.

    Tanya said:

    My friends, you all know that Danny is my husband. I don't mind his discussing this matter with you, but I do object to his working 10 or more hours a day when we have enough money to live till the end without earning a penny. 

    Luci, dear, I don't suffer, but I'd like him to stop working so much despite his being healthy and full of energy. I'd like us to make love not only on the weekend. I don't like feeling a living corpse in my bed and not because of his age or health, but because he is always so tired out! He comes home so late (if he comes) he doesn't want to wake me up and sleeps in the home office. If he quits working, I will surely file a divorce, but why should he work so hard? I, too, was a workaholic when young. I wanted to make my carrier, I wanted to be secured and independent and so on. But I stopped when I made it. I realized there is much more to life than work!

    I am really happy Dan started thinking about it! It is for him to decide and I am glad you all are trying to help him make up his mind.

    To Die Working or to Smell Roses at Last?
    I have never started any general discussions, but I do feel like doing it today. First, I will tell you about my friend, my collaborator and a member…
  • Onee-chan February 21, 2017 4:52

    Dear Teacher Tanya and Danny,

    I'd like to share this romantic song for you, I'm sure you know this song. ^^

    "I Want To Spend My Lifetime Loving You"
    by Tina Arena feat. with Marc Anthony

    Moon so bright night so fine
    Keep your heart here with mine
    Life's a dream we are dreaming
    Race the moon catch the wind
    Ride the night to the end
    Seize the day stand up for the light

    I want to spend my lifetime loving you
    If that is all in life I ever do

    Heroes rise heroes fall
    Rise again, win it all
    In your heart, can't you feel the glory
    Through our joy, through our pain
    We can move worlds again
    Take my hand, dance with me

    I want to spend my lifetime loving you
    If that is all in life I ever do

    I will want nothing else to see me through
    If I can spend my lifetime loving you
    Though we know we will never come again
    Where there is love, life begins
    Over and over again
    Save the night, save the day
    Save the love, come what may
    Love is worth everything we pay

    I want to spend my lifetime loving you
    If that is all in life I ever do
    I want to spend my lifetime loving you
    If that is all in life I ever do
    I will want nothing else to see me through
    If I can spend my lifetime loving you...
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