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Hi All....and as you know we have many new members in EC......and it is great!!!!  But I think either the rules haven't be paid attention to or they are being misinterpreted. Some of the older member's forget also. 

DEFINITIONS: 

Rudeness - ill mannered, discourteous.  Also according to Wikipedia Rudeness (also called effrontery) is a display of disrespect by not complying with the social norms or etiquette of a group or culture.

Profanity -blasphemous or obscene language.

synonyms: oath · swear word · expletive · curse · obscenity · four-letter word · dirty word · execration · imprecation · blasphemy · swearing · foul language · bad language · cursing · cuss · cuss word
a swear word; an oath.

Pridefulness -definition, a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc. 

Vanity - excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements.
synonyms: conceit · conceitedness · self-conceit · narcissism · self-love 

Explicit - stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.
synonyms: clear · direct · plain · obvious · straightforward · clear-cut · crystal clear · [more]

EC is a moderated learning site.  That is the bottom line.  I deal mostly within the main chat room.  I have no control over any other part of EC.  As all know I am a native speaker and although I look to Rys when it comes to grammar rules. I will try to research whatever questions you have.  It does not mean I do not know how to communicate in my native language.  I have had people say to me......I don't want to be corrected.  Which makes me question.....then why are you here?  I understand when the room is busy it is most difficult to try and correct the misuse of English.  I also understand that the main room is a place to try out the words you have learned in regards to this language.  Many have made friends here and it is a place to chat with them.  But we are all here to learn.......or at least we should be.  I learn by being here.  We are never too old to learn.

So many conflicts keep cropping up.  Politics, Religion, Vanity and Pridefulness, Profanity, Rudeness and Explicit text when speaking about certain subjects.  As I have said before......many different cultures congregate here.  We must all respect that.  What I am used to in my country is not allowed in others.  It is not our place to try and broaden the horizons of others about their culture, nor is it beneficial to speak as we will and offend or insult someone.  

Politics are brought up to blame another culture only.  There is never any good comes of this conversation.  No matter what anyone thinks of another countries politics.........that is not our objective here.  If the opinion isn't spoken in the positive, then it has no place in chat.  Arguments upset all.

Religion is a personal thing.  It is not to broadcast over the main chat that your religion is the best or that my religion is the worst.  But that is how it ends up when that discussion is broached.  I understand some that come here their religion is a big part of their lives.  But once again some that come here do not believe in that way......so to keep the chat in a learning mode and not a fighting one.  Let's leave it out of chat. But let us remember we must respect those that believe.... as we must respect the choice of the non-believing or of different beliefs. We are not here to fight a war.  EC must be a neutral place to learn and mix with others that live a different way from each other.  There are many positive and good things about a culture to learn and investigate.  Focus on the positive......not the negative.

Romance or sexual innuendo that offers no doubt what is meant.  It is not a good thing and it is against the rules of EC.  I mean geez if you want to go that route.....there are chat rooms for that on other sites and even pvt here in EC.  Do not subject the main chat to those things.  It is not up to EC to provide Romance/Sex 101 class.  That is not what we are here for. Sometimes the subject isn't a bad one......but how you relay it or talk about it is.  Generally is one thing......explicitly another.

There are many beautiful countries.  You will find history and amazing things in all.  It is one thing to love and share the good things of where you live.  It is another to brag or postulate to others that your country is the greatest of them all, even if that is what you think.  We are not children for goodness sake.  Why make it a contest???

We have had problems with profanity.  People calling the intimate parts of their body by silly names.  The 4 letter word beginning with F and ending in K......is a terrible thing to say to somebody in polite company.  I know it is widely used in slang language......but it has an ugly meaning when used as it is used most times.  Placing the name of God before a swear word.....is so offensive to some that come here.

Forms of rudeness include acting inconsiderate, insensitive, deliberately offensive, impolite, a faux pas, obscenity, profanity and violating taboos such as deviancy.  Sound familiar???  I am sure it does.

Social topics -  Social science, any discipline or branch of science that deals with human behaviour in its social and cultural aspects. The social sciences include cultural (or social) anthropology, sociology, social psychology, political science, and economics.

Social topics being discussed in a general way usually are not offensive.  Unfortunately that is not usually how it is presented.  It is usually against men, women or cultures as a whole.  We blame the many for what the few are guilty of.  This is very unfair.  That is why it is difficult to not break in to a conversation about such things and ask that the subject be changed.

One of the worst things you can do is argue with a moderator.  I have been called unfair.....I have been cursed at.....you name it.  I only break in when there is a problem, usually, otherwise I chat like everyone else.  I was told yesterday that .....you are only a moderator.......you cannot teach.  It is true I am not a teacher per se......but when it comes to my language.......believe me.......I can show you about it.  When you are in the main room speaking and one can barely discern what you are speaking of.......then it is a problem.  We need to try and correct and get you speaking in a manner where you can be understood well without anyone having to use the excuse that they didn't know how to write it.  I used this analogy yesterday that it was like an itch I must scratch when I see such a thing.  

We all joke around at times.  Don't take it to heart if someone tells you they were kidding.  When we joke......don't make it offensive.  Do not use it to provoke.

I am going to post the rules of EC for the umpteenth time.....please read and understand.  Moderators are here for a purpose and it is not to make you unhappy or miserable.  Follow the rules......and all will be well.  They are there for a purpose.

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  • Thanks Hman and Hude and Robbie and all that have read and posted on this blog. I appreciate each response. Hman we will keep fighting for a main room that is safe and enjoyable for all. But we are always going to have those that will try and make things uncomfortable. Hopefully the good will outweigh the bad. Thank you all!!!!
  • Dear Paula,

    Thank you for your reminder post and for your difficult work moderating the chat. There have always been rude people coming to chat and insult others. I used the chat room maybe 8 years ago. Those people disgusted me and would attack any of us to disagree. I have been away many years but those experiences still leave a negative feeling about chat. The moderators always tried to rid us of the bad members but they just came back shortly.

    i wish you the best luck and thank you again for trying toteach people the right way to behave.

  • Hear, hear! Your blog is quite timely and I'm truly glad you expressed it very well. Wishing you more patience and luck in modding the chatroom. 

  • Hi Paula just now I have read your blog patiently.  There are many people  who don't know the rules of EC.  I have seen many user using slag  and assaulting  each other which is not the way of learning English. We are hereWe are getting selfish day by day . if we notice around us everyone is busy with his own family where parents are not included. Our parents put up with a lot of sacrifice for growing up us but they r neglected in our family.we have no time for them. We just running behind money which never bring true happiness in our life. If u earn much money another crisis will come in your life. We always busy with our business but don't have time to do something who r starving day to day around us. If we want from our heart we can do something for them . There are many people around us who has no shelter for sleeping, no clothes and foods. We have ability to arrange some food or clothes but we have lost our humanity. We are getting blind so we can not see their sorrow. We can not stand beside them because we are selfish. Everybody forget it what will happen after our death .nobody remind me so why doing this? Everybody should do something for the needy. for learning English in proper way not for fighting here. There are so many people around us who are incorrigible . Thanks for sharing  such an effective  post.

  • Thank you Dara Gino.......LOL Ella
  • No breaking rules? :O

    “Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” (Pablo Picasso)

    Ohh ...My poor artistic soul.. :D

  • Hello, mod. Paula, we have to abide by the rules. In spite of its length, it is an exclusive blog! Thanks for reminding us.

  • SNR I have read and I appreciate every word of praise you have given.  You are such a kind young lady.  I appreciate each and every word anyone has written here.......I am so thankful to each and every one.  As Eman said.....I am human.....as we all are......you all have taught me so much about your cultures and your thoughts and your beliefs.......you have enriched my life with all that I know of you.  I truly love EC and it's people.  Sure we do have some problems at times......LOL  But you know.....I never take it to heart.  The good usually always outweighs the bad.  You are all in my heart......you will never know how much I appreciate you........but remember.....it does not mean I won't push the button if I have to........not to be mean......just to get your attention and say hey.....rethink this......is it a good way???......Of course there are those that do come just to stir and make trouble.......and those I cannot ignore.....because it disrupts your chat and causes you problems........so.  HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG......and know I mean it.  Thank you all once again!!!

  • Thank each and everyone of you for your comments.......HUGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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