Hello friend,
I'm pissed off and disgusted. I was on chat today and someone was using hitler pic as avatar. This is inadmissible and what worse for all the others on main it was how to say ..unimportant. I was said he is a good boy.
So what's going on? Where is the memory? How can someone think that is enough to ignore this? How can you blame a swear and at the same time justify this?
Explain me please. If I weren't so upset I could may be find this sad...nope that's a lie I couldn't find it just sad. Just remember hitler was considered a poor and inoffensive guy and most part of nazis were gentle dudes loving good music and arts.
Wait forward for your replies.
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@ulty, the idea wasn't to kill anyone off and in main I introduced this topic once. Other times were other tht started it.... But if this topic annoy you so much why are you answering? I said what I had to about idols....I think it is never a good idea to have idols, but if we really have to then let's at least chose them carefully
mmmmmm...
you are killing us with such topic... and on the main chat you seems so gentle and nice... trying to live in peace but you got problems.. i don't know .. really i don't know you .. well .. every one has his/her Idol(s) and they could be worse as they could be better but sometimes we don't know why others choose it as idol .. ?? maybe he/she just type a word in Google Images searching bar then... count to 124 to pick the pic.. and no one cares.. ..
in the end i'll say i have no idea...
thanks
@hardi, I haven't seen how that museum presented Rosenberg so I can't judge if the fact they have to take away his installation was correct or not. If it worked as you say it wasn't, after me, the right thing to do. The knowledge of facts is one of the most important thing, as I said all over this blog. I don't think that to suggest ppl to know better history is an offense. If I had to talk about a subject I don't know that well I'd read up on it make some research analyse the problem... it makes sense I think. I haven't insulted you or anyone else this far and I don't think I deserve to be insulted by you.To put adjective before someone as hitler is the result of an analysis. I don't think you'd have had anything to say if I'd suggested to read history in way to see how good mahtma ghandy was or i.e. I say hitler was an evil man because history and what he did clearly show it, same when I say he was an insane man and a bad general.
@mah, the shape doesn't make of someone/something an human being.
@smr I hope to talk to you.
@josef, thank for the comment
@om, do you mind to explain me what did you mean by posting that link?
for me,
Hitler was a horrible man causes a lot of pain and destructions for his country and for most of the world , he was a sickest he suffer a lot in his childhood specially from the Jewish thats what causes his horrible actions and what gives him that racism for the Aryan race .
for other one,
he was a hero with an amazing vision , he faces all of the world with no fears he stand for his country and for his ethics .
at last
in my opinion he was a sick man and who stand for him or follows his ethics are sick or ignorant to.
Vivianito, I would only comment with a link:
"Terms of use"
Hello dear Friends
I've read your last comment, dear Saeed
I admire your great goal.
You like to be a serious man that is really appreciable.
Being a real man and showing it in all of actions absorb others' attention unconsciously because it expresses human's valuable thoughts.
But for being a serious man we must go on step by step.
What does serious mean?
-We are all human. We like to be admired and have the best face among people.
Hitler is admirable because of his standing in his way (without paying attention to his goal).
But, dear Saeed
Please answer this question;
Can we admire him in all of the aspects of his life?
-He is a human and certainly he can't be a complete person. Not only he but also none of humans in the world (I'm just speaking about humans).
So, the first step for achieving your grand goal is knowing the best patterns.
Who is the best pattern?
Let's consider Hitler as a pattern;
We can only admire his abidance on his life.
Do you think that it is enough for being a real man?
Of course we need some other factors here.
Please think about them.
Selecting patterns in this mortal world can't be so easy, because we are human and we don't have much time in our life, then we can only focus on some aspects in our life and work on them.
So, selecting only one human as our pattern can't be the best option.
When each one can be only complete in some aspects it is better that their great actions and admirable aspects of their behavior be considered as our patterns.
Dear Saeed
Every one has its world. Hating people without entering their worlds can't be fairy at all.
No one will make us forced to do anything except ourselves.
We select ways according to our thoughts .
Please always trust on yourself, what you will decide is based on seeing different ideas and analyzing them with what you achieved in your life before.
Dear Viviana!
I mentiond that I don't have idea about his(Hitler),I meant by like other men;his face ,not his behaviour in history,...!
All of us shaped like each other(human body shape) and its our character that makes us
different from each other;that we can choose to be good or evil!
This remembered me how a museum did make a small exposition of famous people, who had some connection to Estonia at last summer. One of the famous person whose photo was exhibited, was a war criminal Alfred Rosenberg. Who had born and lived in Estonia, as kid. But the museum had to remove the Installation, because it insulted Jews and Russians. Although there was clearly all fact's written out, about him being a criminal and Nazy. Apparently to some people, it looked like it's glorification of him. Because it was beside other famous guys. Why did the museum decide to add also that person to that exhibition. I don't know. He had just only born and lived here as kid.
But it was surprising that some people understood the exposition wrong way, as glorifying nazy. Should the curators of museum have had written something like, "disgustful nazy", or something like that additionally there, to make sure, that everyone could understand the meaning correctly? But isn't museum a institution that's meant to show history just by facts as it is. Not being emotionally affected.
Well that's just how delicate this topic is. Therefore S.M.R Don't be mad. It's just so delicate and difficult topic, where even professional historians can slip.
Oh, and I at last understand too, why to learn history and why to know about holocaust. It's not to take in the hate of Hitlers and start to add adjectives to before his name like they were part of it, as some do. It's to be able to share the sorrow of those who are hurt.
But, when someone comes to tell you, that you have to know, the history and learn from it, to make sure, that such things would never be repeated. Then no need to listening that person. He don't understand anything. He just like to stay draped in a wheel of hate run in circle and look own navel.. since by saying that, he also superficially accusing you in crimes that u might do if u become a bad guy, without knowing you.. or smth that kind.
Anyway I'm glad u decided to change your Avatar S.M.R. Thank you for that. I don't need you to think same as I or someone else. Just be considerate. :) And thanks also for telling your reasons why u had that added avatar.
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@hal of course I'll talk again on skype:P If not friends who can discuss? Enemies can only fight :D
@s.mr I appreciate you'll remove the pic but I'm really sorry you didn't catch the point about hitler. Many are the strong men all along history and he's not one of them he had difficulties in his life as many others; the others were/are strong they didn't freack out. If you wanna be a military I wish your dreams come true just chose better ppl to be inspired from. The strength in a man... don't you think you need strength to wake up at 4 in the morning to go at work and earn somme money that you're not even sure will be enough to feed all of your family though you do it and keep do it and do not turn into a criminal i.e. I'd like to tak to you s.m.r. and this is not serrmonising.
@mah I'm really fed up about hearing that after all hitler was just a man as any other. He was not!!! And we can agree to let anyone theyr freedom but there is something that can't call but EVIL. There is good and evil and generally in an humanbeing they're mix together then there are few exceptions, hitler was one of them he was EVIL. But as you know you don't know anything then please get informed. We were not insulting s.m.r. I was even adviced to report him which I didn't for I wasn't interest in that but in show something to him ....instead this blog show me how easily ppl forget.
@hal I knew since the beginning why s.m.r. likes hitler; only this and the fact he is 15 and the fact he has always been a nice dude prevent me to report him.
@S.m.r. I mean no offense but you will easily find someone on the web that seen how much you like hitler will convince you how right his ideas were. The line to cross from I like hitler and I'm nazy is really thin and almost invisible.
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